Growing a love child
26 July 14
As a healthy, fertile woman, would you consider birthing a baby for your sister if she couldn’t have children but desperately wanted one? What about for your beloved friend? My answer is yes, and this is what I’m choosing to do. I’m delighted to share publicly that I’m pregnant again — but the baby isn’t mine. I’m growing a child for close friends of mine who can’t naturally conceive and birth their own child.

When I consciously decided to birth a baby and allow someone else to parent the child, I knew the only way I could accomplish this was if I wholly and purely loved the intended parents. So I dove headfirst into intentionally falling in love with the couple that are the parents of the child growing in my womb. I met Ágúst and Ben online, we clicked immediately, and time and our shared experiences have confirmed that we are a good match for this endeavour. Although we’re separated by half a planet, we maintain a close relationship — with daily contact — and every time I feel the baby kick, I think of them with love, looking forward to the day when they’ll be holding their precious child.

Surrogacy is not a novel concept to me. I grew up with Biblical stories of traditional surrogacy. I also noticed it in the lives of the West Africans who lived around me; I simultaneously recognised that while the Africans accepted intra-familial child-placement as normal, Westerners kept trying to define the relationships based on their own rigid ideas of what constitutes a nuclear family. “He’s not your brother, he’s your cousin,” they would insist to a child who had breastfed, grown and lived alongside their “brother” all their lives.
As a young mother, I considered egg donation. While browsing the parents’ magazines advertising the latest highchair design or gourmet birthday party impresarios, I often noticed the quietly desperate, paid-for rectangles where a loving couple pleaded for a generous woman to donate her eggs so they, too, could start a family. This idea was rejected by my husband who didn’t feel comfortable with the thought of genetic offspring that weren’t part of our lives.
Then as a single woman, the idea germinated again, and it was boosted by encounters with friends who shared their stories. One woman confided how she had donated her eggs — several times — despite the uncomfortable medical procedures that accompanied it. Then in Western Australia I met an amazing woman who shared her story of traditional surrogacy for her own best friend. The hardest part of the surrogacy journey, Millicent said, was being complicit in her friend’s emotional pain as she mourned again the loss of her dreams of pregnancy while she watched her husband’s baby grow in Millicent’s womb.
I knew that I didn’t want to deal with another woman’s emotional pain — my own is enough to process consciously. In the last couple of years, I’ve been growing in love for the gay community, and I knew having a baby with a gay couple would be a way I could make a meaningful difference in their lives. I contacted Ágúst and Ben through a surrogacy website, and from my first tentative email, we’ve developed a solid and fun friendship.
My girls are delighted to be part of this pregnancy too. They’ve followed every step of the process from the beginning. I had to gain my daughters’ blessing before I could leave them for two weeks last year to travel to Ben and Ágúst in Iceland, see the fathers’ home, meet their families and basically scope out their lives. When Ben and Ágúst came for Christmas and later Ágúst joined us for a month in Tasmania, the girls loved getting to know the men. By the end of Ágúst’s solo visit, he couldn’t sit down without someone on his lap, and while we’re apart from the fathers, the girls lavish all their love for the men onto my expanding belly. They kiss, cuddle and speak tenderly to the baby growing in my womb. They know that the baby isn’t ours and are looking forward to travelling to Europe before the birth.

During the past year, I’ve been buoyed by friends and family who have supported me with love and practical assistance. Two excellent friends looked after my four girls during my quick European trip last year. My mother-in-law flew to Tasmania to support me when I needed time and space for personal appointments. My dad — who is absolutely thrilled to be the grandfather of a gayby! — met the fathers and has offered his unconditional love and practical help. Other friends opened their homes to us, welcoming us when I was laid low with morning sickness, running me baths, and generally caring for me and the girls.
I know that what I’m doing will augment our worldwide network of loving friends — my girls will always be welcomed in Ágúst and Ben’s home when they choose to start travelling independently. I also expect that we’ll see more of the fathers and their child in the future — during their visits to Australia, the men fell in love with the country— especially Tasmania.
I’m not doing this for money, I’m doing it — quite literally — for love. The love that I put into this pregnancy is already returned to me multi-fold by those who support my endeavour. Unlike with commercial surrogacy, I’m not being paid for the pregnancy in any way, although the fathers did offer. Without any contracts, payments or legalities, this isn’t a surrogacy — it’s a love affair! I’ve enjoyed a romance with a married couple, fallen pregnant to them and will birth their baby in their home. The fathers will pay for the home-birth midwife’s services, and I’m covering all our travel costs and living expenses.
I really want to make an extraordinary difference in the world. I don’t have many amazing skills, but I do possess a generous spirit and the superpower of excellent child-production, so I’m using these to transform the lives of a couple by presenting them with a child. My gift is an intimate, personal offering — carefully considered and intentionally packaged with love. I trust that the life that we are consciously bringing into the world will create many positive ripples on the other side of the globe, just as my own children’s have and will continue to do.
With a seventeen-month gestation, so much love has gone into creating this precious baby. I’m thrilled I get to help start another family — mine has brought me such joy! — and I look forward to continuing a relationship with our Icelandic family in the years to come.
1 · Kassie · 26 July 2014, 14:48
Oh lovely, I am so excited for you! I recently gave birth to my first “surrobabe” for a gay couple, and we are on our way to gestating number two as soon as I am six months post partum (they cannot wait for their “Irish” twins). It is such a wonderful, magical experience. I felt a little badly afterward that I didn’t have trouble “giving her up” like everyone asked me all the time. I knew she was, and is, where she belongs. Its so amazing, and I am so thrilled you get to experience it! You are creating a miracle!
2 · Serenity · 26 July 2014, 14:55
Oh, Lauren, you never cease to amaze me! What a beautiful gift of love! How lucky for those new daddies, for they are getting SO much more than a precious child to love – they are getting the gift of you and your girls as forever extended family. Congratulations to all!!
3 · Marcia · 26 July 2014, 15:17
Wow. That is amazing!! I wanted. To do this for my sister in law and brother but that did not work out and now my husband also doesn’t agree with egg donation.
U are well and truly embracing every facet of love! I wish u support and love going forward in ur. Immediate circle and werever u go!! Love to all!! (I sound so corny sorry)
4 · libby · 26 July 2014, 15:33
This is just so incredibly beautiful. Such a loving gift! I have seriously considered surrogacy in the past, and gotten to the serious discussion stage with 2 gay friends, but they weren’t ready for children. Much love and light to you and your girls on this journey. I would love to connect if you are ever around Byron Shire. Xo
5 · Jenny · 26 July 2014, 15:43
How wonderful! I wish you all the very best.
6 · bron smeal · 26 July 2014, 15:58
Congratulations you three! Very excited and thrilled you are already so bonded. The real meaning of extended family, mummy, daddy, dad and a whole bunch of sisters. Blessings to you all. Xx
7 · Helen · 26 July 2014, 16:10
What a wonderful announcement! I can’t wait to hear about the safe arrival earthside of your gayby :)
I am just starting my journey to be a surrogate for my sister-in-law and her husband, and it’s exciting to know of others who are doing the same. I
8 · karen tams · 26 July 2014, 16:15
Beautiful!!
9 · Rob · 26 July 2014, 16:16
I wish to echo the sentiments already noted in the posts above, but just to add….you’re MAD! Gloriously, lovingly and truly mad! The baby you’re cooking in your belly is going to come into this world surrounded by soooo many people who have created an intention for him/her to come into being! If only every child could experience such a beginning…..
What better start to a life can there be?
And what an amazing family to be part of!
10 · Kaz · 26 July 2014, 16:27
I think those positive ripples you speak of may be more like waves! All the best to you for a wonderful trip and birth, love will surround you the entire way.
11 · Yvonne Gluyas · 26 July 2014, 16:35
Congratulations to the entire family! A true love baby!!
12 · Suzy · 26 July 2014, 16:40
What a beautiful gift this baby will be to you all.
13 · Pa · 26 July 2014, 17:09
Lauren love, I so proud of you and am praying that all goes well. It’ll be so nice that the girls will be there with you to cuddle the newborn too who will be surrounded with so much warmth and love.
14 · Leisa · 26 July 2014, 17:21
Nothing but love and admiration for you all Lauren. Beautiful news that brought a smile to my heart. :)
15 · Claire · 26 July 2014, 18:41
Oh my god!!! Seriously, woman, WORRY ABOUT THE CHILDREN YOU ALREADY HAVE!!!! If everyone needs to be less worried about genetics, how about these guys adopt one of the MILLIONS of parentless babies in the world, and you actually raise the children you already have, instead of worrying about everyone else and spending ten hours a day blogging about it. These men weren’t your close friends – you deliberately sought them out so THEY could fulfil YOUR need. You talk about the example you set for your own daughters, I wonder what they’re going to think about their childhood when all they ever see is you putting everyone else’s needs above theirs.
16 · Jen in NSW · 26 July 2014, 20:22
You are giving these men a wonderful gift. It sounds like it is being truly appreciated. I also think it is a great way to have a birth that will give so much joy to others. I wonder if it will part of a healing process to see that babies don’t always have bad things happen. Losing your little one tore a family apart. This baby will bind families together. A lovely reason to have a child.
Best wishes with the birth.
17 · Melody O · 26 July 2014, 20:30
Lauren, you are such a beautiful soul. What an absolutely precious gift you are giving. I have so much admiration for you. Ben and Ágúst are certainly blessed to have met you. I’m so happy for all of you :-)
18 · Kellie · 26 July 2014, 20:51
Claire, go smoke some pot. You’ll feel better.
19 · Jen · 26 July 2014, 21:06
Beautiful! Lauren, you write so well I always enjoy reading your words!
I’m the mama of two kids conceived with donor sperm. It takes incredible and generous spirit to help others. Thank you x
20 · Serena · 26 July 2014, 21:06
This seems like an incredible amount for the girls to process, given they have already lost their brother. I’m worried and sad for them. I don’t know how they could really gave any idea what they were ‘giving their blessing’ to. You’re absolutely crazy entering this emotional and legal minefield.
21 · Rob · 26 July 2014, 21:08
Hah…what Kellie said Claire. (and I don’t even smoke!!)
But just to add….gay folk are pretty much excluded from the adoption process. So few kids are available, and the adoption agencies are loathe to allow gay couples to adopt anyway if there’s 20k hetero couples ahead of them on the list! What Lauren has offered this couple is the true joy of having a family. She’s already caring for her own four girls (admirably in my humble opinion) and now they want to share their joy of babies with others. What’s to hate?
22 · Concerned · 26 July 2014, 21:25
Your poor girls. For all your talk of a shared family, they are about to lose another sibling.
23 · Kellie · 26 July 2014, 22:01
For those of you upset about this, what would you have her do? Keep the child now? Since that would be horrific and I’m sure you know that, is your goal here to shame Lauren? Seriously? Listen, Lauren makes some decisions and does some things that I don’t comprehend, but in the long run, I choose to support someone rather than bring them down.
24 · Hope Prevails · 26 July 2014, 22:02
I can’t help but wonder who will provide the mothering side to this baby? Every baby deserves the loving, feminine touch that only a female can provide. A woman has the intuition to know what her baby needs, uniquely as her role as the child bearer and can provide the love and comfort that only a mother can do. Who will meet this vital and crucial need for this baby? Everyone in this trio seems bent on having their own void/needs met, but what about this baby? I ask this as I am genuinely curious about the whole wellness of a child.. as they have no say about where and who they are born to. They are at our mercy really. All great to slap each other on the back and say it is all about love and how wonderful it all is, but who provides the mother-nurturing side for this child? Yes, I realise some mothers die in childbirth and some babies grow up ok without a mother for various reasons, but some circumstances can’t be helped.. this is not one of them.
25 · Sarah · 26 July 2014, 22:29
This is sheer lunacy.
26 · Sue · 26 July 2014, 23:08
I’m not against surrogacy in any way but this woman is batshit crazy. Your kids need some normalcy after all they have been through. How bout saving some money for their future therapy bills.
27 · Talon · 26 July 2014, 23:47
Once again I’m astounded at your level of compassion and love. I was almost in tears reading this. What an absolutely beautiful thing to do, and my heart bursts for this child who was nurtured so thoroughly before it even made its presence to the rest of the world. Just beautiful.
28 · Melissa Banigan · 27 July 2014, 00:22
I will be showing this article to my teen daughter to give her an example of how good we can be to others. I am so incredibly thankful for people like you. Helping another family to have a child is a great gift. Your daughters are blessed to have you as their mother – what an incredible experience for them to be able to watch their mother selflessly help another family. Actually, as I define family as being much broader than biology, I love the idea that you are building strong relationships with people around the world – the new fathers you are supporting are lucky to have you as part of their friendship-family, and I hope this experience continues to be positive for you!! All my blessings, and sending extra strength to buttress you against the naysayers. <3
29 · Susie · 27 July 2014, 01:08
Oh my gosh Illona!! Are you serious? You can’t judge all same sex couple based on one awful couple such as Truong and Newton! They have nothing to do with the rest of the same sex couples in the world just as the horrible heterosexual couples have nothing to do with me or you. I’m sure I could easily find articles about heterosexual couples abusing a child but if course that does not mean all heterosexual couples should be cause for concern. Ridiculous!!!
30 · Melissa · 27 July 2014, 05:48
Lauren, Please make sure you have support set up for you and the girls after you give birth. I read your posts about your bouts with post natal depression and I know first hand how difficult it can be. Please take care of yourself and your girls. This comes from a place of love and from someone who also deals with “black dog” after giving birth…
31 · linda · 27 July 2014, 09:46
“Gayby”? How offensive. That’s a person you’re talking about, not a fluffy toy. I fear for your poor girls.
32 · Dawn · 27 July 2014, 09:54
Lauren, continue to be yourself, everyone will judge you, advise you, support your or walk away from you. Live life, follow your beliefs, follow your heart. No one can be you, only you. Love to you and your girls. I wish I had your strength and courage!!!
33 · Leah · 27 July 2014, 11:30
Lauren, this is beautiful , wishing you a wonderful pregnancy. It made my heart hurt reading you say you don’t have many amazing skills – yes you do! We all do <3 what’s more important in the world than mothering and loving on the next generation who are the future of the world, and also you are so skilled at spreading a message of love and compassion. You have AmAzING skills mama :-)
34 · linda · 27 July 2014, 11:31
So much distorted thinking is on display here.
You talk about how you didn’t want to be involved with surrogacy for a male/female couple because you were still processing your own emotional pain and couldn’t deal with that of another woman as well.
If you’re in emotional pain (this is the kind of pain that doesn’t just go away, so I’m assuming you still are), you should have been assessed by a qualified mental health professional before entering this arrangement. What you’re doing isn’t fair on the “gayby” (which speaks volumes about how you and the fathers see the child), your four children, the fathers, or yourself.
You speak about your ex husband’s disapproval as if it is a passing concern, leaving out the fact that he’s off the scene because he is incarcerated after killing your fifth child.
You say that your own family has brought you great joy, which is undoubtedly true, but you leave out the parts about it also bringing you frustration, exhaustion, postnatal depression, serious marital conflict, and infanticide.
I really question your reasons for doing this. It seems to me your children need their only parent to focus on their needs, not on the needs of two strangers which can easily be met by somebody else who doesn’t live halfway across the world.
Under the right circumstances, surrogacy is a heroic thing to do – but these don’t look to me like the right circumstances.
35 · Julia · 27 July 2014, 12:09
Surrogacy can be great if done properly within legal and ethical guidelines. And yes, gay couples should be allowed to raise kids, I have no issues with that (although I detest the term “gayby”). But in your circumstances, this whole thing seems like a recipe for disaster, mainly for your girls.
Yes, they may be delighted… of course it’s exciting for them to see their mum pregnant (and probably happy and glowing) again and get caught up in the anticipation of a baby being born, but there is no way in the world they could truly grasp what all this means and how it will affect them in the long run. They will have to deal with losing another baby brother and I do hope you have thought about what support they may need. It may be a great gift to give to this baby’s fathers, but it seems like a very selfish thing to impose on your daughters. I do hope I’m wrong and in fact I’d be happy to be wrong. I guess only time will tell.
36 · Claire · 27 July 2014, 12:42
“Smoke some pot”? What an effective way to deal with the world and children. No wonder you’re a supporter.
I, too, am absolutely dumbfounded that you actually think that by not involving another woman in this you are going to protect yourself from pain. This entire thing is a massively orchestrated stunt to try and bring yourself some healing and closure by losing a baby in circumstances you can control this time, and it’s absolutely guaranteed to fail. And like with everything else, you haven’t given one iota of thought to your daughters. Seriously, how old is Delaney? Do you really think she has the mental capacity to understand that they won’t be able to keep this baby? Selfish, selfish, selfish.
You say that you “really want to make an extraordinary difference in the world”. You claim to believe in God, He has given you not one but FOUR beautiful girls that you have the opportunity to guide and mould into strong, a capable, world changing women. There is NOTHING more important or extraordinary than that. But instead, you choose to repeat all the same mistakes of your own childhood and parents that left you the self centred person you are today. For heaven’s sake, Lauren, stand still and appreciate the pearls that have been laid before you, before you completely trample them to dust!
37 · Betsybb · 27 July 2014, 12:48
Lauren, you are a loving, giving mom and you are doing what you need to do for this couple, giving them the gift of a lifetime, a baby.
It is so nice of you to share this with us, the World, you didn’t have to do that but I am so happy that you did.
Don’t let those who do not understand gay male couples and the love that they have to give a child, their child, discourage you.
And as to not have a female influence in their home, come on, I am sure that they have female relatives who will play a part in raising the child.
Have a safe and Blessed pregnancy and delivery.
38 · A · 27 July 2014, 14:37
Lauren, I received third party help to have my children. It was a wonderful, generous gift. But, at all times our instinct and the counsel of the wise people around us was to keep the welfare of that third (or fourth or fifth) person at the forefront. I would not have allowed a recently bereaved mother who suffers from terrible postpartum depression and who has her own children to care for to do this for me. It is horrifying to me that these men who want a baby so badly can’t see that it will be soul destroying for you to give this baby up.
39 · Mindy · 27 July 2014, 15:00
These men obviously didn’t read your blog before they trusted you to birth a baby for them!
You seem to be filling a hole that can’t be filled by having a baby and giving it away.
They are not paying for the trip… oh yeah sure, that’s right you are doing this for free. not!
If it really is an act of love, why not chose someone in Australia and wait until you are actually better in the head??
Paypal button for people to give you money… Why??
40 · Loyal Reader · 27 July 2014, 16:36
Lauren, I hope this works out for everyone involved, including your beautiful, wonderful daughters. Honestly, I do. But upon reading this post, I feel so sad for you. You just seem so lost. You try to spin it into a wonderful, sparkling adventure, and maybe sometimes it works, and it does sparkle for a while. But at the end of the day, you’re still just as lost. This surrogacy isn’t going to do what you think it’s going to do for you. It’s not going to heal you, or bring you full circle. I hope I’m wrong, but it’s just going to be another wound. How could it not be, losing another baby boy? And you will be losing him, Lauren. I worry about what’s going to happen to you and your girls when it hits you.
41 · Colleen · 27 July 2014, 18:29
Your generosity, kindness and love is simply amazing.
When is Ben and Agust’s baby due?
42 · Anna · 27 July 2014, 19:11
I think surrogacy can be a wonderful thing. I think gay couples are as equipped to be parents as straight couples. I have several friends who are in same-sex relationships and have happy, healthy, gorgeous children.
And I am an attachment parent/unschooler/home birthed too. So I have no issue with your lifestyle generally.
But this is as terrible thing you are doing to your daughters. I say this as someone who lost a baby brother when I was 7 and he was 10 months. I grieve for him still, 35 years later.
How can you even consider bringing another baby, another brother, into the world and then sending him away? It’s unconscionable.
43 · Donna · 27 July 2014, 19:41
The baby belongs with you and the girls. Keep this baby.
44 · Amandarose · 27 July 2014, 20:10
I everything works at well for you all- to everyone ranting- mind your own business and keep your negativity to yourself – the baby is coming and it is happening so supportive might be more beneficial.
45 · Tracey · 27 July 2014, 21:30
How can you say this baby is not yours?
Did you use your egg?
I admire your kind heart but this feels all wrong. I have no problems with surrogates, for gay or straight couples but this IS your baby. To deny that is wrong. I am sorry but I don’t think you are stable enough emotionally to do this. But, alas now you have got yourself into deep water. By the way I really dislike the term ‘gayby’.
46 · amy · 27 July 2014, 22:33
i am humbled by your courage and depth of compassion to put the intimate moments and stories of your life’s journey on the internet for the reflection of others. you are teaching us all. many blessings beautiful family, i hope this birth brings you closer to each other and more in love with the miracle of life. much love
47 · Betsybb · 28 July 2014, 01:38
I, too, detest the word Gayby, never heard it before reading this and hope I never hear it again.
You are doing this out of love, but don’t use that term.
48 · Jk · 28 July 2014, 07:36
Lauren, I hope you consider some of the voices here that are listing concerns. Support doesn’t always look like “hurrah, good choice!”. Sometimes it comes in the form of “oh…have you thought of this? Have you considered this? This part here is worrisome.”
49 · HeavenlyHippy · 28 July 2014, 09:45
How do you all know it’s a boy? I didn’t see it mentioned anywhere that it’s a boy. Although Lauren posts a lot of her soul on here, I don’t think any of is can truly say we know her soul. Only she knows what goes on in her heart and her mind. Therefore, only she is qualified to make decisions that impact hers and her children’s lives. I don’t think she was asking for anybody’s opinion here, just putting her thoughts down in written word and letting all her followers know about this new journey she is embarking on. I wish you all the joy and happiness in the world, Lauren. God bless you xo.
50 · Lauren · 28 July 2014, 09:52
Dear Jk,
Please be assured that I have considered everything before falling pregnant and I have discussed the issues many times with family members, my children, healthcare professionals, my friends, our midwife and the baby’s fathers. I appreciate your gentle concern.
Love,
Lauren.
51 · Amandarose · 28 July 2014, 10:10
I agree with heavenly hippie- everything she said. I also want to thank Lauren for what she does share- he life makes for interesting reading and she is a wonderful writer and photographer. As for the donate button- she writes and entertains so I see no problem with the button if people feel inclined to give.
52 · Mindy · 28 July 2014, 10:39
Is the baby due around when Elijah was due?
53 · Jk · 28 July 2014, 12:38
Lauren,
Thank you for your gracious reply and information. I wish you and all involved all the best.
54 · Helen · 28 July 2014, 12:58
I am appalled at some of these comments. Agreeing with surrogacy for gay couples, but then saying that this is Lauren’s baby and that she should keep it?
You obviously have no idea.
As an egg donor, does that mean I am able to claim the baby my recipient births because they are genetically mine? As a gestational surrogate, am I entitled to keep the baby I birth, even when I have no genetic link to them?
Yes this baby is genetically Lauren’s, and she is also going to birth this baby, but this baby is not her’s. This baby was conceived for Agust and Ben. It is their love that has created this child, with the assistance of Lauren.
And those that are worried about the girls, I can tell you all, that children understand these things better than most adults. They do not have the ingrained preconceived notions of family and children that we as adults do. My children (aged 8, 7 and 5 – my youngest two have no concept of anyone but themselves since they are only 2 and 12 weeks) understand that I have given my eggs to a couple who needed them. They understand that they are related to any offspring from my eggs, but it isn’t the same as their siblings. And they also understand that when I carry a child for my sister-in-law, that this child isn’t ours.
Lauren, thank you for sharing this intimate detail of your personal life. Much love for the rest of your surro-journey.
55 · Lisa · 28 July 2014, 13:30
This is the saddest thing I’ve read in a long time. This will hurt your girls more than I can bear to even think about. I’m so sad for them. I’ve been sad for them many times, but this is just devastating to consider. There are no words….
56 · India Baker · 28 July 2014, 14:24
Lauren,
Because in reading this I have seen such immense outpour of loving thoughts as well as some immense hatred (mostly from people from the FJ site as I monitor that, as well) I want to make a strong statement here.
I have known you since you were in elementary school. I have been a friend from afar as we traveled away from boarding school and were separated by continents. I have seen the heartache that you have experienced. I have seen what a LOVING parent you are.
I KNOW you to be a compassionate, loving, caring, thoughtful parent who like all parents struggles at times with simply being human, not to mention working through your heart ache in ways that most people cannot comprehend.
I KNOW you to be a strong woman who is capable of acknowledging your weaknesses and coming out even more loving and compassionate.
So let me call out that petty naysayers who have no better things to do in their lives than to nitpick you and complain about all that you are doing to spread love in this world. Let me call them out and say that they surely have better things to do than to pick on my dear friend.
To Lauren, I love you dearly and will support you always.
To the petty people who are so “concerned about Lauren and her girls” let me quote the Bible that you all are so liberal about quoting when it is convenient for you over there on FreeJinger, Let you who is without sin cast the first stone. Or, if you prefer, how about a non biblical quote, “Walk a mile in someone elses shoes…” Go back to being worried about Jinger Duggar and all the other fundies you bitch about when you have no clue who they really are and leave Lauren and her family (biological and chosen) alone.
Have a lovely day.
57 · Tracey · 28 July 2014, 15:08
Helen, I only stated that to deny that this baby was hers was wrong. By saying “but they baby isn’t mine”. I felt this was a wrong statement. Surrogacy is a wonderful gift as is donating eggs. But, the baby IS Lauren’s, to GIFT to the couple. By denying that this baby is hers I feel goes against a mothers natural urge and may come back to hurt Lauren. I support any emotionally stable woman’s decision to be a surrogate or donor.
I have never explored the world of surrogacy and maybe doctors advise surrogates to ‘distance’ themselves from the baby. I don’t know. I do know that a child should know the woman who conceived them calls herself ‘mother’.
Every child deserves a mother. Even if that Mother is the other side of the world and leaves the raising of the child to two loving parents. In Lauren’s case the two new Fathers.
I have followed Lauren’s blog and find her a wonderful inspiration. I have never had any cause to think she is other then a wonderful kind caring person.
I am genuine in my worry for her over this decision. I feel she ( in her kindness and compassion) has made a decision that MAY be wrong. For her, at this time. So soon after her own losses.
I never suggested for one moment she keep the baby. She has entered into an arrangement with this couple now.
I do however feel that unless she admits to herself that this is HER baby that she is GIFTING to this couple maybe she can release him or her with love. But, no matter how you dress it up if Lauren has used HER egg then this IS her child.
Egg donation is different. Foetal egg from a male and female into a host womb is different.
In Lauren’s case this IS her child.
That is the point I wanted to make.
I am definitely not a Nay sayer or just here to be wicked. I just dislike the very airy fairy “you go girl “type of comment as much as I dislike the dreadful comment Mindy made. Disgusting by the way.
Lauren, if you do read my comment I apologise if my earlier comment seemed insensitive. I do not know you but I admire you very much.
I realise now that a lot of people have a lot to say and some are just here to hurt you. Shame on them. I am not writing to hurt you. I wish you only the very best outcome for you and everyone involved.
58 · Lisa Wood · 28 July 2014, 18:22
Lauren,
You are incredible….so much love, so strong and so caring. This baby to be is so very lucky – he or she will always have you and your gorgeous girls as part of their life and then two daddies who will love them for ever. {a community of people raising a wonderful little baby}
I have meet you and your girls – they are such beautiful children and so giving – another child in another part of the world means that the world grows more loving. sending a massive congrats to you, the parents to be and to the baby as well as your daughters xxxx
59 · Jenny · 28 July 2014, 18:56
Surrogacy can be very complicated to get your head around and I feel that many of the naysayers are not well informed.
Whyever would we assume that Lauren and her family haven’t researched and considered this intensively and deeply?
How can we assume that this experience could only be negative for the girls? As the lady who has donated eggs has described above, children are often unfettered with prejudice/notions of how the world ‘should be’.
Children need loving parent/s committed to their wellbeing and a community of family/friends of every gender who love them. The actual gender of their parents is less important than the quality of the parenting.
I am sure that there will be difficult times along this journey, just as there will be glorious ones. Such is life. But is it our job as parents to shield our children from every intense experience? This is impossible and actually unhelpful.
Why shouldn’t this experience be enriching and positive for the girls as well? An expansion of their network.
Much love and good wishes to you and your family Lauren xo
60 · Claire · 28 July 2014, 20:36
There is a big difference between donating eggs and letting children who have recently experienced the death of their sibling and the loss of their father experience their mother’s pregnancy and then the loss of another baby; and there is a big difference between not shielding a child from an intense experience and actively subjecting them to one that is more than likely to be extremely traumatic, particularly if it is not even for their own benefit. The girls should be Lauren’s biggest priority – not herself, and not two blokes from halfway around the word she only just met. If she does need to temporarily put her own welfare above that of children’s in order to heal, it needs to be in a sensible and responsible way, NOT like this. EVERYONE can see how incredibly complex and difficult surrogacy is – that’s why so many of us have serious concerns. It’s a very hard thing to watch someone potentially endanger their children – whether that’s physically, emotionally or psychologically – and not speak up in the hope that person might listen and change their risky behaviours, or seek help.
61 · Goo · 28 July 2014, 23:40
mmmmm, suppose when you blog, you’ve got to take the good with the bad. Not all a happy ‘Nimbin’ world out there. Love everyone’s opinions. I think your one crazy squirrel & worry for you & your girls long term. Hope you all get through the madness & sadness & out the other side. Best wishes for your pregnancy & birth.
62 · emma · 29 July 2014, 02:58
I too am concerned for your four girls Lauren. I remember suspecting that this might be a surrogacy arrangement back when you made the trip to Iceland very soon after writing about surrogacy on your blog. My heart was broken for your existing babies when I saw their sad, dejected faces in the photos on your return, and as I read the blog of your homeschooling friend who needed to leave immediately on your return, to get some respite from a childsitting task that had proved too much for her. I think your lovely Aisha articulated the problem beautifully, though sadly, in a later post when she said (at the start of two whole weeks staying in a real house!) “Last time two weeks was too long, but this time 2 weeks won’t be long enough”. Damn you Lauren, those girls had no idea what they were consenting to when you took off for a 2 week break. The idea of them consenting to the trauma of losing another sibling is beyond comprehension. They need stability and solid parenting right now, not to be part of yet another Sparkling Lauren’s Flight of Fancy. I will add: I am very much in favour of well-thought out surrogacy for would-be parents of any sexual orientation. But this surrogacy, in your circumstances…. Oh Lauren, please take responsibility for the beautiful girls that are already birthed and needing care. :(
63 · Margie · 29 July 2014, 03:35
HeavenlyHippie – we know it’s a boy because there was an announcement (including an ultrasound image of the genitals) on the globalgayby blog. That entire blog was deleted shortly after this post went up. You can still find a cached version.
64 · Diane · 29 July 2014, 03:52
Lauren,
You have such a giving, generous heart. What you are doing goes beyond ordinary love and altruism. What an amazing opportunity, a way for you to heal your own heart, and show your daughters the meaning of true, selfless love. I am so glad that you have people supporting you for this.
I hate to tarnish things, but I thought it was important that you know about a group of people who make it their business to insult, harrass, and belittle people who aren’t just like them. Unfortunately, they have chosen to target you. If you have someone who can, you might have them look through the threads (it might be too upsetting for you) and take note of some of the things going on in the thread, because they are posting personal information.
[Link removed by admin.]I wish you the best of love in the future <3
65 · Meegs · 29 July 2014, 04:26
Congratulations Lauren! What amazing news. I am currently pregnant with a surrobaby for a lovely couple also half a world away. Such an amazing experience!
66 · C · 29 July 2014, 11:14
I don’t know if it’s the case in other countries, but in North America the term Gayby is considered very offensive.
67 · Melissa · 29 July 2014, 12:33
Diane, Lauren is well aware of free jinger. Posting the link just drives more people to go and read the personal information you are writing to warn her about… unless that was your intention?
68 · Stephanie · 29 July 2014, 16:17
Lauren, as a mom-to-be myself and an adopted child I have done a whole bunch of thinking about how non-tradition families work and I think the lessons that you are teaching your girls are FANTASTIC! You’re showing them that families can be built a variety of different ways and that love comes in many different forms. I have no doubt that your girls will understand how you’ve not only helped to make a new family but expanded theirs as well.
And a question to all those against: In westernized cultures so many families are breaking down and now instead of Mom, Dad, Baby, there’s Mom, Step-dad, Dad, Step-mom, step-siblings and half-siblings and these are ok, but expanding family circles with love and intent are wrong?
69 · Ruth · 29 July 2014, 16:29
“I dove head first into intentionally falling in love with the couple and our shared experiences have confirmed that we are a good match for this endeavor.”
The husband you chose murdered your (and his own) baby son. Are you sure you’re the best judge of men’s characters?
70 · Claire · 29 July 2014, 16:33
Stephanie, most of us who are expressing serious concern have absolutely no issue at all with non traditional families. Our concerns are with the ill thought out ramifications for the poor girls in the middle of all of this.
71 · Susan · 29 July 2014, 18:17
To India Baker (comment 56):
Is “bitch” a biblical word?
72 · Hellena Post · 29 July 2014, 19:18
Oh Frangers, begone. Spread your ill-informed bile elsewhere. It will never cease to amaze me how heated up you all get about stuff you’ve got no personal experience of whatsoever. And your negative flights of fantasy would send Freud into conniptions!! So much expression of your suppressed shadows, and so little concern for anyone’s opinions but your own.
So have any of you Frangers actually met Lauren? Or her girls that you’re so happy to dictate the mental and emotional state of? We’re fortunate to have spent quite a lot of time with Lauren and her girls, who dissolve into our kid pack so quickly, that we sometimes feel like we hardly see them at all, so immersed are they all in the land of play.
We all actually met Lauren and her girls at Elijah’s wake, so have had a bit of a front row seat in observing what goes on for them, and how they’re all coping. And two years down the track, we’re all amazed at how beautifully Lauren has managed to keep their lives growing and full of love and life, as well as accept and allow all the emotions they feel to be expressed and worked through. It’s a total credit to Lauren that she’s not only managed her own grief, and is still working through her own process with integrity, love, and a healthy rainbow of emotions, but has managed to keep their lives to as similar a vein as she possibly could, to what they all love as a lifestyle.
They’re gloriously ‘normal’, well adjusted, lively, imaginative, industrious, curious, loving little people. They talk about David and Elijah in conversation, and are well aware of what’s going on around them, and are totally met in all the ways they need by a loving mother, who so totally places them above everything and everyone else, it would be obvious to anyone who spent time with them at all.
And the way this pregnancy is being dealt with is a joy to witness and be even a small part of, with all of the people involved. It’s so gorgeous to see the connection between this little person inside Lauren’s belly, and its fathers over the other side of the world. And with the two fathers being so special, and embracing the whole family, it’s an extension of love, rather than a painful experience in any way.
To all you Frangers who are genuinely concerned – rest easy, cause the whole family is doing far better than your worries and concerns would allow you to believe. They’re absolutely cruising and dreaming and laughing through life – except for when they’re sad, and they allow themselves that as well. Lauren’s intention for what happened with David and Elijah to not be a moment that they look back on as the beginning of a harsh reality and cruelly changed world…………has been totally successful.
And as always – Lauren inspires me always, with her striving towards love, and all the different ways to express, be and extend it to the world. I’m absolutely in awe at how she sails through her life with the strong rudder of her integral faith and belief in love as her abiding guiding light.
And to the Franger who commented so many times on this post with different names to make it look like a crowd…….take your nastiness back to the other Frangers where you belong, and leave Lauren’s blog where it belongs – in the hearts and minds of people open to her messages. Keep your negative projections in the hating forums where we don’t have to witness it.
73 · Serena · 29 July 2014, 21:49
Hellena, I enjoyed your comment and if you believe Lauren is on top of things, well that’s great. But I think it’s disingenuous, and yes, inauthentic, of Lauren to not at least acknowledge that there are aspects of this surrogacy arrangement that are deeply complex and potentially worrisome.
74 · lily boot · 30 July 2014, 09:06
You are sharing such an amazing gift and I am very moved by your hopes of creating a network of love. I too believe in the primacy of love and know that each time we genuinely share it, we have the opportunity to add so much good to the lives of others. I truly hope this pregnancy continues to be source of much happiness and love, and that the birth and sharing of your wee baby with his new family is an experience of long lasting joy for you and your girls. Wishing you all the best of care and support.
75 · April · 31 July 2014, 08:08
I think surrogacy is a wonderful thing, but the term “gayby” is incredibly offensive. I will give birth to a baby, just as a straight couple would. My child will not be categorized as some sort of “other” because of my sexuality.
76 · PEARL · 1 August 2014, 10:44
This is just so sick.
77 · Chantal · 2 August 2014, 04:58
There are no words to describe how mad this situation is. I feel sorry for the unborn baby and your 4 children. You need a psychiatrist and therapy. Sick, sick, sick.
78 · Jane · 2 August 2014, 20:30
That is such a wonderful gift you are able to give. It made my heart sing to hear of it :)
79 · Sarah (Wheel Education) · 2 August 2014, 22:52
Just wanting to say, we love you and hope and pray that everything goes well with the remainder of this pregnancy and with the birth.
80 · Valerie · 3 August 2014, 06:57
My first thought on reading your post was ‘poor little girls’. I find those who are totally thrilled at your ‘unselfish act’ also don’t have a grip on reality.
These little girls have lost their baby brother and their father. They’re dragged around the country staying with people they’re mother often hasn’t met before. I often wonder at their mental and physical wellbeing. Yes, for the most part, people are good, kind and generous but not for anyone would I put my children in that sort of danger.
Those who think it’s hateful to disagree with the latest airy fairy feel-good exploit, perhaps you might come down to earth and think of the ramifications on these little roaming, uneducated children who have to process yet another madness in their life. Poor babies, selfless? loving? definitely not.
81 · tharliber-al · 3 August 2014, 15:03
I am so very sad for this baby. As an adoptive momma of four, I do not believe that children should be created soley for the PURPOSE of being released by their birthmothers to couples who are “so loving”, yet not loving enough to open their hearts to a child who is not biologically theirs (and I assume that this child is biologically one of the men’s, and that perhaps the men do not even know which one of them?) Everywhere, it is being pushed that we should only be adopting rescue animals, not purebreeds, because there are so many animals already in need of good homes. And yet…..this does not apply to homeless, parentless children who linger in foster care. Heartbreaking and warped. I’m sad for you, that you could create this “rainbows and happiness” unreality out of this reality and thus so freely release your child, and I’m sad for your precious girls, too, especially in light of the loss of their baby brother. I’m sorry, Lauren, but you seem to create a surreality and choose to live there, whether it’s healthy or not. I do tolerate your right to believe as you do. I just do not agree.
82 · Jenny · 4 August 2014, 05:59
The baby is yours. This is not surrogacy. This is open adoption. The men have not fallen in love with you. Your girls have not consented to any of this. If you did think having another baby was a good idea, then you should have just done that. Or, if you wanted to help someone have a child, be an egg donor. Healing is important. Helping others is great. You are doing neither with this arrangement. It’s okay to just be you. You don’t have to swing from one type of fundamentalism to another. I guess you know you can keep this baby if you want to. When your blogging changes/slows down/stops exploiting your kids, I think that would mean you are maturing. I am so sorry for your childhood, and more sorry for the death of your beautiful son. You can grow and heal, and I admire your striving. At the moment though you are using a lot of denial and narcissism. Financially, I love that Oz has a welfare system, but while you are dependent on that/not declaring rental income on your house/seek donations for your indulgent lifestyle, that speaks of immaturity and entitlement. I think it is sad that you and David were so harmed by fundy childhoods. You have both had a battle in growing up and being adults. Stop running. Give the girls a house and some stability. Ask for a respite carer to be provided to you as much as needed. Get a lawyer and a counsellor. Listen to friends and family. Don’t harm yourself anymore, just slow down and grow up.
83 · Valerie · 4 August 2014, 09:23
Jenny – the voice of sanity and reason. Thank you for putting into words everything that those of us with a sense of reality are worrying about. You have put it all so well.
Life isn’t all about sparkly adventures and Nimbin rainbows. Life can also be wonderful if we are mature, responsible adults giving love, stability and guidance to our children.
84 · Alice · 4 August 2014, 15:14
I bet there are nights Lauren when all the “ I love you, sprinkle sparkle friends” are nowhere to be found. I bet in the back of your mind you know you are truly alone. Just you and your Girls.
So, how about growing up and taking proper care of your Children.
All this falling in love with everybody is total bull.
Love your Children! Put THEM first.
85 · Jenn · 5 August 2014, 10:56
Wow, this is such huge news! I hope that this arrangement brings nothing but joy and happiness to all involved.
Love, Jenn
86 · Coco · 6 August 2014, 20:38
Wow. Gobsmacked.
Interesting that the dads look so clean cut. I don’t think your daughters’ new brother will be cutting his own hair somehow!
87 · Concerned · 7 August 2014, 15:40
A less illegal way to sacrifice a child maybe? Does it make you feel special? More “godly” to sacrifice another one? Sooo soo sad for your poor little girls.
88 · Yanda · 7 August 2014, 17:04
I’m curious, how does it work once you have birthed the baby? Will you breastfeed the baby at all?
89 · Donna · 10 August 2014, 15:29
I think there’s a definite pack mentality developing here. Some of the comments are quite offensive. Although I have my concerns about this pregnancy, I don’t like the ranting tone in which some people are using.
90 · Alice · 10 August 2014, 16:34
It’s a pack mentality if you disagree? What is it called when you agree?
A lot of people are genuinely distressed about the situation. Some, I grant, are. Being malicious for the sake of it. But at the end of the day Lauren has lived her life very openly. She surely is intelligent enough to filter out the nasties from the genuine?
Not every one is going to agree with her choices. Pack mentality? No.
91 · rebecca · 13 August 2014, 09:56
I’m afraid there is literally no constellation of circumstances under which this is a good idea for you or your girls. I’m truly aghast.
92 · Virginie from France · 15 August 2014, 08:13
Hello Lauren, hello to the 4 little girls,
I am profoundly hurt by your vision of a family. A baby is not a cute object to offer but a human been who one day will ask as many of us, who I am, who is my mother, my father, my ancestors … Why mommy isn’t ‘ a part of my life ? It is not only about love, it will be so simple my dear. You are going to deal with loss again, your daughters are going to deal too with loss, they are little girls with a heavy heritage. How to process all this thing after loosing a baby brother and a father ?
Lauren, you really seems to be a loving lady, but your actions will have consequences you can’t even imagine today.
God bless you and the girls and the baby in the womb who is not a “gayby” but just a human been.
Excuse my English, I a a French lady from Paris
93 · Jenn · 22 August 2014, 08:18
Hi Lauren,
And interesting look at a recent study on surrogacy in a blog by one of Australia’s most foremost lawyers on surrogacy an adoption.
http://surrogacyandadoption.blogspot.com.au/2014/08/why-do-women-become-surrogates-in-us.html?m=1
94 · So Sad · 25 August 2014, 00:03
This is YOUR precious baby.
This is your children’s half sibling
95 · Diane · 26 August 2014, 00:16
I have been following you and your family for a long time Lauren,i think what you are doing is a very kind thing to do! You are helping others do what they otherwise would only dream, i have no concerns about the girls, you know your girls, you know how to explain things to them in a gentle way, and i’m sure if they objected to the idea, you would have reconsidered, i think you are a very caring and loving person, i wish you all the best! xxx
96 · Jen · 28 August 2014, 15:27
Wow these comments are so mean! How about offering some real support if you see something wrong? Instead of just name calling (e.g. Heather’s comment). All you are doing is making yourself feel good for a minute, but not actually changing anything. If you actually fear for these children then Australia has pretty easy reporting mechanisms.
97 · Naomi · 12 September 2014, 16:23
I’ve read your blog on and off over the past few years, and always enjoyed your posts. I came this time to read up on your travelling posts (we are considering going on the road), only to find you sharing this news! Congratulations :) The comments made me pretty sad, there seems to be an awful lot of judgement from an awful lot of strangers. Best of wishes to you, I look forward to coming back and seeing more of the new tribe you are building ox